
PRINT THIS PAGE Institutional investor profile: Sara McMahon and Trey Thompson, co-managing directors, UTIMCO19/04/2004. Source: AltAssets. 
McMahon and Thompson on the importance of investing with hungry private equity managers, on avoiding the herd mentality, on being tough on terms and on how to live with disclosure.  The University of Texas Investment Management Company (UTIMCO) was established
in 1996 when it span-out from the university to become the first private investment
firm to manage a public university endowment. UTIMCO currently allocates 15 per
cent of its overall portfolio to private equity and invests across a wide range
of sectors, geographies and stages. The organisation also makes some direct investments.
UTIMCO has three professionals dedicated to private equity in addition to its
chief investment officer. Thompson and McMahon both joined UTIMCO from the asset
management arm of Prudential Capital.
Why do you invest in private equity?
McMahon: 'UTIMCO invests in private equity for two reasons. Firstly, it
has been one of the best performing asset classes for us over the last 20 years
and a very strong return driver for the endowment, and secondly, we invest in
private equity for diversification.'
Thompson: 'We have a fairly robust asset allocation for our overall portfolio
and we review this allocation every two years. At the moment we feel that private
equity offers great diversification and is also relatively uncorrelated to the
other asset classes.'
What type of investments do you look for?
Thompson: 'We are fairly well diversified because we have been in private
equity for a relatively long time. We have exposure to everything from venture
capital, to distressed debt, to European buy-outs. So while we are looking opportunistically
at new areas we don't feel the need to actively target any particular industry.
We are simply trying to find the best managers at any given point in time rather
than focus on the specifics of sector or geography.'
What areas do you think are particularly exciting at the moment?
Thompson: 'We are looking carefully at venture although on a highly selective
basis. We think there is a great valuation environment at the moment. We are
remaining cautious because we still have a concern regarding the overhang of
capital that's been committed to the asset class. But we are certainly hoping
that the industry won't become flooded again and that investors like ourselves
will remain prudent in how we allocate capital to funds so that we don't find
ourselves in another valuation bubble.
'In our most recent review of UTIMCO's overall portfolio allocation we determined
that we would like to increase our venture capital funding from roughly 2 per
cent of the total endowment to up to six per cent over the next five years.'
McMahon: 'While we are approaching the market cautiously we are really
excited about the opportunities emerging with top tier venture capital groups.
We have been working hard to meet new teams and hopefully add some strong relationships
to the portfolio.'
What size of investments do you typically make?
McMahon: 'The size of our commitments varies significantly. In general
we will invest between $25m and $50m in a later-stage fund. On the venture side,
while we would like to gain as much exposure as possible to the top tier firms
that we invest with, we are cognitive that fund sizes are reducing. So although
we would like to invest between $25m and $50m in venture funds as well, we normally
invest between $10m and $15m.'
How does your allocation model work?
McMahon: 'As we already have such a diversified portfolio we tend now
to be more opportunistic about the investments we make. We do try to be tactical
in identifying the right segments to be investing in at any given time but we
are not restricted by any asset allocation tool.'
How do you find out about good investment opportunities?
Thompson: 'Because we have been involved in the asset class for 20 years
we are the beneficiaries of deal flow activity. Opportunities are brought to
us because we have been active for so long. But we try not to rest on those
laurels. We try to be proactive in meeting new groups. We network with other
limited partners in order to learn about opportunities in the market so that
we can broaden our deal flow pipeline.'
McMahon: 'We also try to leverage our relationships with our general
partners as they obviously have a good insight into the market. We use them
for relationship building, introductions and in routes. Trey and I sit on 55
advisory boards between us, and that gives us a lot of time to spend with the
general partners and the other limited partners on the boards. We get a lot
of benefit from it.'
How does your due diligence process actually work?
McMahon: 'We have a fairly structured due diligence process. We meet with
new groups on a regular basis. We then narrow down the groups that we want to
spend more time with and assign a person on our team to run the due diligence
process from that point. The due diligence itself involves lots of time spent
with the general partners, reference checks, analysis of track record, attribution
analysis, etc. That process varies in time anywhere from a month to four or
five months depending on how complex the investment is. The next stage is to
take the investment proposal to our chief investment officer who must approve
the investment. Finally, we take the formal investment memorandum to our board.
The board do not necessarily have to approve the investment but it is simply
important that we make then aware of the investments that we are making.'
What do you look for in a private equity manager?
Thompson: 'We look for two main things in a private equity manager, a
great team and a great market opportunity. It doesn't matter how good a team
is if that team is going to be investing into a bad market. So we try to focus
our due diligence on balancing those two elements.'
McMahon: 'When we look at a team we naturally want to see that they have
demonstrated that they can make profitable investments. But at the same time
we also have to consider whether or not they have the incentives necessary to
invest our dollars in a manner that can generate great returns for us. We regularly
come across groups that have profited from prior funds and are therefore not
as incentivised to work hard in the future. It is a delicate balancing act.
We want to make sure that our GPs have got great experience but that they have
not yet grown too complacent. There must be a genuine alignment of interest
between the LPs and the GPs.'
What advice would you give to a new investor in private equity?
Thompson: 'My advice would be to take your time. There are a lot of new
investors in the US, Europe and Asia that have added private equity to their
asset allocation over recent years. It might only be two or three per cent but
that is still a lot of dollars. I think it is best not only for their own returns
but also for the industry as a whole for them to be very selective in committing
capital to the asset class. Investors should not just commit for the sake of
reaching target allocations.'
McMahon: 'I would also say to avoid the herd mentality. I think that
LPs have a tendency to move together and focus on the current hot opportunity.
We are constantly trying to focus on what everyone is not focusing on and that
is where the returns are to be made.'
What is your appetite for first time funds?
Thompson: 'We have invested in first time funds but we don't have an official
programme where we set aside a specific number of dollars for emerging teams
as some other institutions do. We have invested in three first time funds in
the last year.'
What would you say is the biggest mistake you have made as an investor?
Thompson: 'From an institutional standpoint, UTIMCO left the asset class
entirely in 1993 for almost a 24 month period. This decision was made on the
basis of some short term under performance from the asset class. As a result
the endowment missed out on two very good vintages. Had we had a more long-term
approach our returns would have been much higher.
'From a personal point of view, I may have contributed capital to funds where
I wasn't as tough on terms as I could have been in retrospect. I think it is
important to maintain a high bar and ensure that our interests are aligned in
terms of management fee and carried interest. I probably made that herd mentality
mistake. I wanted to be gain exposure to a particular fund and as a result I
let myself be swayed on terms.'
What are your views on the disclosure debate?
Thompson: 'UTIMCO discloses internal rates of return and some other high-level
fund data. Initially it caused us a little bit of heartburn and certainly caused
our general partners a little bit of heartburn. But from our perspective the
disclosure debate has pretty much worked itself out. By making it clear that
we are not going to be disclosing portfolio company information our lives have
been made a lot easier and firms are generally a lot happier to work with us.'
McMahon: 'I think its important for everybody in the industry to get
comfortable with the fact that portfolio company information is not going to
be revealed. We have no interest in releasing that kind of information. Various
attorney generals and other officials responsible for interpreting the law have
been consistent in saying that portfolio company information is sensitive and
does not have to be released to the public. Now that we have that guidance I
think that everybody is a lot more comfortable. We are happy with the level
of disclosure we have and we are pleased that we now have that additional clarity
provided by the various officials around the country that have drawn that line
for us.'
Have you experienced any problems accessing funds as a result of your disclosure?
Thompson: 'I don't think we could say with a straight face that we hadn't
encountered any problems. But by and large I think that we have been fairly
surprised at our ability to access the funds that we really want to access.
The fact that we have managed to convey that we will not be revealing portfolio
company information has helped us, but the fact that we have been investing
in the asset class for a long time and that we write fairly large cheques has
been even more significant. We are supportive of our general partners and it
is well known that we like to develop long-term relationships with them. These
kinds of qualities go along way in private equity and have helped us to overcome
any challenges that we may have faced as a result of the Freedom of Information
laws. Our jobs have certainly been made a little harder over the last couple
of years but I think that it is paying dividends at this point.'
What would say is the biggest issue in the private equity industry at the
moment?
McMahon: 'I would say that the amount of capital going into the asset
class is the biggest concern going forward. There is a very real danger that
too many private equity firms will get funded simply because of allocation driven
motives. This reckless type of investing has the potential to drive the efficiency
out of the market. But I think that as long as investors are cautious about
where they are putting there capital the industry will remain a very attractive
place to invest.'
How do you think the market will evolve?
Thompson: 'I do think that things are going to become more efficient in
terms of pricing due to the volume of capital available in private equity funds.
I think that existing inefficiencies are already being wrung out of the market
and I think that return expectations are going to have to come down as a result.'
McMahon: 'As a consequence I think you are going to see an increased
specialisation among private equity groups. Firms will be forced to search out
areas of the market where there may be inefficiencies remaining.'
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